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Defining the Curl in 4b/4c Natural Hair

By January 27th, 202131 Comments


  • Anonymous says:

    I Love Ur hair! Mine is the same and other methods did not work but this one did! Sure it takes time but isn't it worth it?!

  • Anonymous says:

    This was very helpful… I have 4c and applying the product to dry hair does define your curls more. I am happy with my natural hair. My hair was severely damaged with the perm I had a huge bald spot in the middle of my head as well as the sides… Going natural was the best decision I ever made..

  • myhair4c says:

    I love my 4c hair I've been natural most of my life except for a short stint in high school where I used relaxer. I must admit though my hair is ver delicate, what I use to keep it from breaking is nutrilite hair skin and nail vitamin. This really works for me

  • Anonymous says:

    Oh my god. i just saw your video and tried it immediately. it worked out great. didnt use eco styler though, used Dabur Vatika stying gel with cactus, olive and nuttle as i live in muscat and thats what availbale and it works great as i also use it for twist outs as well, but diffinely works better on the dry hair for defining curls and holds up really well for 1-2 wks. I have 4c hair.

  • Anonymous says:

    i just purchased this product; it is wonderfully moisturizing for my hair which is type 4c

  • Anonymous says:

    Too much time, but thanks for the video anyways.I have 4c hair with no visable pattern when it dries. If u ladies want definition. after a shower leave the conditioner in ur wet hair, then work Eco styler through the roots to ends. YOUR HAIR WILL COIL OUT AND SHOCK YOU. 15 mins tops. (This is the curly girl method). Dont say "my hair can't" . After a couple trys it will.

  • Terry says:

    I've tried this using the eco styler gel and it's not flaky at all. It's a little crunchy, but nothing unbearable. This was the first time I've ever gotten curl definition. I've used Carol's Daughter milk curl definer and Miss Jessie's curly pudding. The eco styler gel was the best. See my results at the link below.

  • kitka82 says:


    When gel makes my hair crunchy, I *gently* smooth some coconut oil over my hair. That makes it soft and keeps the definition.

  • gp says:

    Can anyone tell me if after doing the gel was it super crunchy/flaky/hard? It sounds like she says after it dries she puts shea butter on to soften–has anyone tried this? I would like to try this method soon. thanks

  • Black Hairstyle Magazine says:

    Thank you for this! I will try this method on my daughter and see if it works. She has very thick, 4b/4a hair and she is always asking for curls. lol!!! I do braid-outs and twist-outs all the time but this would be something different.

  • Anonymous says:

    There are so many nasty women on this board. Good Lord. If you don't care if your hair is curly go read something else. You don't have to always be so bitchy about it all. Get a life.

  • Anonymous says:

    This technique does seem perfect for 4b/4c hair but my concern is that the final result will apprear stiff and flat, kinda like that "stringy dread" look with no body. I wish I could see more pictures of the final result after the hair gel has dried completely.

  • Anonymous says:

    Wow this is a great video. I may actually try this soon when I get over my laziness. Reading through the comments it appears it doesn't take as long as I thought and seems to last for a while. Thanks for showing your technique. I don't quite get all of the comments around trying to define curls…I see it no different that rod sets, etc., those are not 'natural' textures either.

  • LovintheBlessin says:

    I tried this method July 3rd and JUST washed my hair out, and only because I went to the beach and got sand in it. I timed the application process and with detangling and applying oil and gel, it took 18 minutes. My hair had more volume than any wash and go or twist out, it stayed in the curl no matter how much I played with it, it snapped back in the morning with no trouble. It is honestly my nee favorite thing to do in my hair forever. I think its low maintenance/protective because the curls just stay the way they are, they re stiff enough that the ends don't move/tangle much at all. I honestly cant find a downside.

    And to those complaining about too much product, we're naturals, kinky, curly type 4 hair. we have to use a lot of product in most cases. To me this is like complaining that you need too much conditioner to detangle smoothly or too much oil to seal. Yes, this is more than a dime size amount, but even when i straighten i use more heat protectant than suggested, so I don't understand the complaint about the amount of product.

  • goldenchica says:

    I looooooved this method!

    As soon as I saw this video, I ran to my Sally's and got my ecostyler. Then I spent six hours undoing the micro braids my hair was in (no extensions, just me :). I loooooved the results!

    Thanks, Shanna, for your post. I experimented with just gelling the hair and that didn't take any time at all IMO. And, then, once I'd seen how that would look I braided the still damp with gel hair. Now, when I say my braidout turned out awesome, I mean, AWESOME!

    This video came out that right time for me, too. I've been so comfortable wearing my hair in mini braids because I realized my hair is long enough now that WNGs are destructive and I don't like the look of twists and I really hate spending a lot of time on my hair on a day to day basis. The only thing I didn't like about the braids, though, was that they made me look so young.

    Well, thanks to this video, I've found my grown up hairstyle!

    Hugs and kisses!

  • Anonymous says:

    I posted the comment above – I got 3rd day hair from this. Misted lightly and let the steam from the shower help. Popped right back like Foxy Cleopatra.

    It worked for me.

  • Anonymous says:

    Hello Indigochild613,

    I just attempted a modified version of your tutorial. It came out beautifully – thanks for posting.

    I have 4 inch crown height with a tapered neck. My hair is 4b with some 4a texturized ends. I co-washed with Trader Joe's TTT, detangled and banded it to stretch and dry. I couldn't wait till it dried completely, so I applied my IC Fantasia (what I had on hand) to my damp-dry hair with my fingertips – I don't use the rattail combs.

    It took approximately 15-20 minutes to gel it.

    WOW! So much more definition and fullness – the clumps settled just like you said they would!!

    The final test of this method will be second-day-hair. I will post a comment.

    Again, thanks for the video,
    Be Blessed

  • Shanna says:

    I have the same type of hair and it doesn't take long at all! Maybe 15 minutes. 20 to 25 minutes if it is thick. The more you do it, the faster it gets. Sometimes, if I don't have anywhere to go, I will take my time and draw it out, but you can do big sections, focusing on the ends and leave the roots a little thicker and it still looks great.

    I do mine on slightly damp hair as opposed to stretched hair and it works. The key is not to separate it. The hair will stick together and remain stretched. You can lightly fill in any holes or break up any big obvious areas but don't totally separate it. It will do it on its own as it drys.

    Second of all, the style will last you at least 3 days. When it gets old, you do up do styles. Kind of the same way Nicki does her old twist and curl styles. So you could wear it up to a week. When you wake in the morning, you just shake and go.

    As naturals, we have to look at the OVERALL time it takes to do our hair. For instance, I can do twists that take 4 hours but I don't have to do my hair again for at least 2 weeks or I can spend 30 minutes every morning over two weeks doing my hair.

    Also, as far as product is concerned, if your hair doesn't curl naturally on its own, you have to manipulate it to do so. It is no different from people with straight hair using curling irons. The hair is not going to magically curl up.

    As the young lady mentioned, 4B hair tends to be fine textured and each individual strand is fairly light weight. It doesn't have the weight to clump and stick together. Plus since the pattern is not defined, it gets tangled up with its neighbors and doesn't sit down the way bigger curls do. So you have to manipulate it if you want it to have a defined curl as opposed to its usually cottony gorgeousness.

    It is all a matter of preference. I like wash and gos better then twist outs because the hair looks more natural.

  • BrownLady says:

    Nice Video. However, I say blow that 4b/c out and go!

  • Anonymous says:

    nice job! i use this method a lot! i have 4b/4a hair and this lasts much longer than a twist out or wash n go.

  • Anonymous says:

    i think she did a great video. very useful, thank you indigo!

  • JazBNatural says:

    I agree with you guys. I gave up on curl definition a long time ago. lol and I'm far too lazy to try this, but it looks nice on her. Its always good to have choices and more options though, so every video is appreciated.

  • Mrs. Lewis says:

    I'm w/ you all!! Give me a braid out anyday!! My 4b hair is way too thick to even try this, lol!! It works well for her though :)

  • Anonymous says:

    I might as well go back to a Jheri curl if I want curl definition; think I'm "safer" with twist outs and braid outs.

  • Anonymous says:

    this turned out nice.

    i think this method may be more natural-looking than just doing a twist out. Also, her hair doesn't seem to be very thick so this method may not take her as long as it may take someone with thicker/more hair.

  • Anonymous says:

    couldn't you just do a twist out? um, that is a whole lot less work with the same result and less product too. I have 4b hair and like the other ladies have indicated that is simply too much time. to each their own though

  • naturallady says:

    I'm with Anonymous #1, that is just too much work. I don't even worry about curl definition anymore, if I do a wash and go I just use my curl activator or conditioner and let my hair do what it does best. Cute for her though.

  • Maricopa says:

    Me personally. I prefer to define my curls using a moisturizing conditioner, like Hello Hydration, it eliminates the "crunchies" you get from using Ecostyler gel. I think MahoganyCurls has a video demonstrating how she defines her curls using a moisturizer. I also never, ever use a rat tail comb to detangle my hair.

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  • Anonymous says:

    "Too much product won't damage your hair"…so long as you don't go near any open flame. :

    I have yet to see a video of this type (how to put curls in hair that doesn't have visible curls via product alone) that doesn't involve lots of product, small sections, and more time than I personally am willing to spend. But that's ME. If curl definition is that serious for some, then I guess this video is helpful…

  • Tiffany says:

    Looks great. So happy I finally found ecostyler.

    Peace, Love and Chocolate

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