Patience (Northampton, UK curly) writes:
Nikki,
I have a problem that I hope you and the wonderful community will be able to help me with. I am getting married in 9 days and I want to wear a big ass fluffy Twist-Out. Problem is, my hair does not like being separated after being twisted, just wants unravelling. I don’t know if that’s because my hair is what is known as 4b. My normal Twist-Out regime consists of air drying until nearly dry in braids, unravel, apply Lustrasilk Aloe Vera, a tiny amount of CURLS Souffle, and seal with coconut oil. I unravel when 100% dry with oiled hands.
My question to the CN community is what products do you use for a fierce big fluffy defined twist out and what techniques do you use?
The above photo is of a recent decent Twist-Out.
Help her out!
Congrats on marriage. I think we have the same type of hair. I, like Kimmie 0810, lift from the roots not quite to the center, but definitely need the fullness from the roots. However, I don't twist all the way to the root. In addition, after I twist I rod. Air dry or use a hood. Make sure U have the hair laying in the direction U wish it to go. Once dry take rods out. Decide if U want to un twist them all or some. This is an effect that came from tryinig everything. I wish I could do the flat twist, but on my wet hair it is a struggle to run my fingers thru my tight curl and keep it parted. If U don't get the length U want adorn ur beautiful gift and have a wondeful day.
Hi Patience and Congrats! On your upcoming wedding. I also have fine, 4a/4b hair that loves to shrink and Frizz.
My suggestion is do the flat twists that Prinsis suggested THEN stand in your bathroom after running the shower and it's still full of steam for a few minutes. Don't touch your hair. This method guarantees me big hair. I would suggest experimenting with how long you stay in the steam. I Lovvvveeee my hair afterwards. I put some olive oil on my hands, pat it on my hair gently and I'm good to go.
Let us know how your hair turns out whatever you decide to use.
I would suggest two strand twisting your hair after you have washed it and allowed it to air dry. I normally use a tshirt to absorb most of the water, then section my hair off in 8 sections, twist them, and put a scarf on my head and go to sleep. The next day I melt a few chunks of shea butter and proceed to saturating my hair with the now oil and two strand twisting.
I normally wear my two strands for about a week, but that is for convenience reasons. You would be good with about two or three days. When I am ready to untwist, I coat each twist with shea butter(NOT melted this time) before unraveling.
They come out soft and frizz free! I can wear my twist out for at least a week and as the week goes by, my hair gets bigger and softer. During the week I normally get in about 3 good workouts and surprisingly my hair holds up!
BTW – I have 4a/b hair with major shrinkage! It will hang to my shoulders when dry two strand twisted but look like a 2 inch fro when any style is attempted while wet.
Hope this helps and congrats! 🙂
CONGRATULATIONS!
Have you tried kimmytube's deep conditioner recipe? Her PH balanced leave in conditioner mix drastically changed my twist outs. If it is available in your area, try sealing with grapeseed oil. I found it other oils like coconut oil way to heavy for fluffy twist outs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXi2k4cFFhI
I usually do a twist out with small twists when i wash my hair and then every night after the first day i do big twist (as big as my length will allow) and my hair is much bigger all those days, and it still has some definition from original small twists.
Brit
I do a twist out on my hair when it's dry. I either dry it with a blow dryer or let it air dry. Then I twist my hair with Shea Moisture's Curly Smoothie.
And come back with pics! 🙂
Thank you ladies for the ideas. I have never tried flat twists, i will definitely give them a try this weekend.
I think that blow-dried or banded hair will make the biggest twist out. Definitely don't twist on wet or damp hair b/c it'll dry too tight/shrunken.
For Me the Curl Soufle or any kind of cream takes out my definition from the twist out. Maybe try a butter to unravel and leave the twist in for a little longer.
Try a chunky flat twist out on stretched hair (banded or blow dried). Flat twist outs give me more volume than regular twist outs (and I don't seperate either either). Stretched hair gives me more length and volume as well.
Here are some vids that may help:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60yHJyy3gjA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnUtaO6W7bU
I am a collarbone length 4a/b natural.
I hope this helps! 🙂
Congrats on your upcoming wedding! I'd try any number of the afore mentioned recommendations but I just wanted to suggest that you have a back up plan too! Have a: "What do I do if my hair is not all the way dry?" plan; or a "What do I do if this product doesn't hold all day?" plan! Pinning the hair up during disasters usually makes for a cute style in the end anyway! Good luck!
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I have fine 3c/4a hair, and I have found that 4 big cornrows on damp hair have given me the biggest fluffiest set ever!! I washed and conditioned then used cantu shea leave in and put it in 4 twist just to let it airdry and stretch for about 30 min. Then I used a mix of carols daughter hair milk (mostly hair milk b/c it's lighter and makes my hair fluffier) and marguerite's magic (more so on the ends to enhance the curl and reduce frizzies) on each chunk of hair before cornrowing. Then I rolled the ends all the way up w/ a flexi rod. I let it finish airdrying overnight. Took it down and fluffed the next day and I had big fluffy hair! Loved it and got TONS of compliments! Btw, congrats on your wedding!!!
My hair doesn't like if i put coconut oil on my hands to separate/fluff…it just turns into a ball of fuzz…it likes either nothing at all or a serum instead which results in the BOSSIEST set – defines and big! BTW my hair doesnt like twist outs that much, it prefers braid outs! Plus for big hair I use Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie…but I don't know if you can get that in the UK…we can't get it here so I normally let someone else get it for me on a trip to the States!
Congratulations on your upcoming marriage!!
I'd say try the flat twists. Also try doing it on dry/product dampened hair.
The main thing is to take a pick and GENTLY pick it out/lift it up at the roots. My hair is fine as well and twist-outs look stupid on me. My hair just hangs in these squiggly noodle-looking things. But if I pick out the roots (bringing the pick almost halfway up the length of my hair) I get fullness. There's a video posted here about doing this very thing. She does it almost the same way that I do it.
I sometimes wet my hands and coat them with product (Curls Milkshake or Whipped Cream or any moisturizer) and just fluff or "plop" throughout my head so that the ends get full & don't look like limp noodles.
Good luck! Start practicing NOW lol
For the past couple of months twist outs have been my staple style. What I do to get mine big and fluffy is to wash and condition as usual, smooth Giovanni's Direct Leave in conditioner through my hair and then when my hair is damp (not dripping wet!) I apply Whipped Pudding (from Oyinhandmade.com)to my hair as I do the the two strand twists. I rewet with a spray bottle as needed until I've finished the twists.
I typically leave them in for a day or two (any longer than that and my hair goes flat in the back) before I separate the twists. My hair is well defined and definitely fluffy! The twist outs typically last me 3 -4 days.
FYI: I have a combination of type 3c, 4a, b & c on my head 🙂
If you want a big twist out, try doing it on dry stretched hair to achieve that Dianna Ross fullness. To get my twist/braid outs to be big and defined, I use Shea Moisture Styling Milk on dry hair, then spray with Aveeno Spray Gel (love that stuff). Then I seal with coconut oil to get the shine. I do about six to seven cornrows if I'm doing a braid out or about ten twists. The longer the braids/twists stay in the more defined it will be. Congratulations on the upcoming nuptials and I hope this helps.
Naptural 85 Flatwist Twistout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ntmGdXXUw
I agree with @Prinsis.your hair is fine but flat twist would create fullness. The flat twist create fullness because she does large flat twist that created definition due to the separation. The large size also creates fullness. I used this method two weekends ago and my twist out was larger than ever.It is a great time saver as well because I didn't have to do a lot of small twist.
LOL…I just answered this question in the forum. It looks like you have fine hair as well. I have fine 4A/4B hair and what works for me is doing flat twists…not regular twists. I put about 18 flat twists in my hair…6 on each side and 6 in the back (3 on the top and 3 on the bottom) and I use Darcy's Madagascar styling cream for the hold and I have to do a minimal amount of fluffing to cover the parts. Oh! and I get a B.A. twist out..lol
Addendum: after lustrasilk and a tiny amount of curls souffle, I seal with coconut oil and do medium sized twists and then unravel when dry.
My hair is 3c/4a…1/2 natural 1/2 texlax. What works for me is untwisting and seperating while its only about 85%-90% dry. I save the fluffing for when it's 100% dry. It lends just a little bit of frizz, but a serum or a bit of melted shea usually handles that. CONGRATS…and practice before the big day. 🙂
~CurlyBlasian
The way that I get fluffy twist outs is to do small twist on dry hair and use just enough product to moisturize and concentrate on the ends. This method makes for a large soft twist out with slight to moderate definition. The bonus of smaller twists is that you don't need to separate. But if you want to, to add fullness it's still fine because they aren't as defined.