Author Byron Katie joins Nikki Walton for a conversation around the power of self-inquiry practice and the four questions that can help us not identify with our thoughts.
Byron Katie’s simple yet powerful process of self-inquiry, which she calls The Work, consists of four questions and the turnaround, which is a way of experiencing the opposite of what you believe. Katie has been bringing The Work to millions of people for more than thirty years. Her books include the bestselling Loving What Is, A Thousand Names for Joy, and A Mind at Home with Itself. Visit thework.com for more information and free resources for doing The Work.
Nikki welcomes Katie to the show and asks what started her on this path of self-inquiry. Katie describes the moment in her life where the concept of The Work was born, and how she broke away from her attachment to her identity.
“I saw that when I believed my thoughts, I suffered. When I did not believe my thoughts, I didn’t suffer. And I’ve come to see this is true for every human being.” – Byron Katie
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The Four Questions (19:00)
Nikki and Katie dive deeper into the practice of self-inquiry, touching on Ramana Maharshi’s question of ‘who am I?’ and how it takes courage to be with truth. Katie goes over the four questions we can ask ourselves when a thought arises, using the example of a person we think has been cruel to us.
“What happens in inquiry [practice] is our identities begin to shift and we become kinder, more caring human beings.” – Byron Katie
Katie covers the concept of the turnaround, which is the practice of flipping the initial thought around. Nikki and Katie discuss some of Katie’s books, and talk about how our true nature is love. Our work here on Earth is to wake up to that love.
“What happens without inquiry is we’re building a case against that person, and we become hurtful and bitter and old and mean, and justified.” – Byron Katie
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